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quest: settle the untimed follow-ups - #5522
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The maintainer decided #4822's two questions: moq-archive records untimed tracks through an optional timestamp, and a malformed object in a group FETCH ends its track. Each becomes a quest and the decision quest goes. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
WalkthroughThe changes update M1 quest documentation. They add a proposal for recording and replaying untimed archive tracks, and document malformed standalone group FETCH handling when a subgroup object lacks a Priority: ⬇️ Low Merge Risk: 🔵 Low · up to
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| means the track's frames store no timestamps. Settle whether that is a new | ||
| format version: `moq-archive` is on `release`, so recordings in version 2 | ||
| may exist, and the line's in-place exception | ||
| ([archive](/quest/m1/archive/README.md), Compatibility) ends once a release | ||
| ships recordings. |
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The quest says the maintainer chose to bump the format but leaves whether this is a new version unsettled. rs/moq-archive/CHANGELOG.md records releases through 0.0.11, so the parent Compatibility clause's condition that versioning begins once a release ships recordings has already been met. Leaving its conflicting in-place exception intact could lead an implementer to change the schema while retaining version 2, making existing recordings ambiguous or unreadable. Specify version 3 here and update the parent compatibility text in this commit.
AGENTS.md reference: AGENTS.md:L29-L29
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Leaving this open in the quest rather than settling it here. The plan already marks the version question as the first thing to settle, and the OpenAI review notes that moq-archive-v0.0.11 and release both still write VERSION = 1, so whether recordings in version 2 shipped needs checking before deciding v3 is mandatory. The implementer settles it, with the parent Compatibility text updated alongside.
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| - The timeline is a time index (`pts`, `duration`, `durationMax`), which an | ||
| untimed track can't fill. Decide its shape before coding: likely one record | ||
| per group with no `pts` or `duration`, as a sparse track already cuts. |
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The proposed timeline shape makes pts and duration optional, but the plan scopes only the draft update. Implementing this changes the rs/hang timeline format, while js/hang/src/timeline.ts currently requires both fields and js/hang/src/catalog/archive.ts independently mirrors the recording version as 2. Without including js/hang and doc/concept in this quest, JavaScript consumers will reject the new untimed records or advertise a divergent format version.
AGENTS.md reference: AGENTS.md:L104-L104
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Agreed. 4fed6ac widens the last plan bullet: the change is mirrored in js/hang (timeline.ts and the version in catalog/archive.ts), the draft's Recording section, and doc/concept/hang.md in the same PR.
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No additional actionable correctness bugs found in this plan-only change. The standalone group-FETCH inconsistency is real: it currently aborts only the group, unlike recv_group and recv_fill. Propagating MalformedTrack to the owning track is consistent; ordinary reset/refusal errors should remain group-local.
Direction: optional timestamps governed by track timedness are preferable to inventing media time. When settling the timeline shape, retain idle flushing for never-closing groups and explicitly define duration-based retention. Coordinate the Rust/JS schema changes as already noted in #5522 (comment) rather than duplicating that comment.
Compatibility clarification: the published crate alone does not establish that recording format v2 shipped. Both the cited moq-archive-v0.0.11 tag and current release use VERSION=1 (
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- Line 16: Reword the sentence in the archive format discussion to describe
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| Decided 2026-10-14 by the maintainer, from | ||
| [#4822](https://github.com/moq-dev/moq/pull/4822)'s untimed follow-ups: bump | ||
| the format so a timestamp is optional, rather than keep refusing. |
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Keep the format-version decision open.
“Bump the format” states that the format version will increase. The next bullet explicitly leaves that decision open. Reword the sentence to describe optional timestamp support without deciding the version.
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| the format so a timestamp is optional, rather than keep refusing. | |
| the format to support optional timestamps, rather than keep refusing. |
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Reword the sentence in the archive format discussion to describe adding optional
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| On a TIMESCALE track, a subgroup object without a Timestamp in a standalone | ||
| group FETCH, which a relay sends to fill a cache miss (`run_group_fetch` in | ||
| `rs/moq-net/src/ietf/subscriber.rs`), ends the whole track with | ||
| `MalformedTrack`, as it already does in `recv_group` and a joining FETCH's | ||
| fill (`recv_fill`). A regression test pins it. |
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Clarify the current status of standalone group-FETCH termination.
The page states that standalone group-FETCH ends the whole track and that a regression test pins this behavior. The implementation only aborts the fetched group, and the test checks only Err(Error::MalformedTrack). Update the page to describe whole-track termination as the maintainer’s intended contract, not as implemented and tested behavior.
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Review comment at @quest/m1/group-fetch-malformed.md around lines 5 - 9:
Update the standalone group-FETCH description around run_group_fetch to
distinguish current behavior from the intended contract: it currently aborts
only the fetched group, and the regression test asserts only
Err(Error::MalformedTrack). Describe whole-track termination as intended
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Settles the two questions #4822 left in
quest/m1/untimed-decisions.md, as decided by the maintainer:quest/m1/archive/untimed.md, a child of the archive line. It flags two things to settle first: whether this needs format version 3 (moq-archiveis onrelease), and what the time-indexed timeline holds for an untimed track.recv_group,recv_fill, and js/net. New questquest/m1/group-fetch-malformed.md.The decision quest is deleted. Quest-only change: no public API or wire impact.
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